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02/06/2013 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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08:03:04 AM Overview: Education Funding Outside of the Bsa Formula by Department of Education and Early Development
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        February 6, 2013                                                                                        
                           8:02 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lynn Gattis, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Lora Reinbold, Vice Chair                                                                                        
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Peggy Wilson                                                                                                     
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Dan Saddler                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW:  EDUCATION FUNDING OUTSIDE OF THE BSA FORMULA BY                                                                      
DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND EARLY DEVELOPMENT                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 27                                                                                                               
"An Act  relating to student counts,  unreserved school operating                                                               
fund  balances,  restrictions  on   school  district  money,  and                                                               
estimates  for  public  school  funding;  and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH NUDELMAN, Director                                                                                                    
School Finance and Facilities Section                                                                                           
Department of Education and Early Development (EED)                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided the overview on education funding                                                               
outside of the BSA formula, on behalf of EED.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARK LEWIS, Director                                                                                                            
Administrative Services                                                                                                         
Department of Education and Early Development (EED)                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Responded  to  questions,  during the  EED                                                             
presentation on education funding outside of the BSA formula.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:02:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  GATTIS called the House  Education Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to order  at 8:02 a.m. Present at the  call to order were                                                               
Representatives  Gattis,  Drummond,   P.  Wilson,  and  Reinbold;                                                               
Representatives Seaton and  LeDoux arrived as the  meeting was in                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^Overview:   Education  Funding  Outside of  the  BSA Formula  by                                                               
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
   Overview:  Education Funding Outside of the BSA Formula by                                                               
         Department of Education and Early Development                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:03:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
an  overview   from  the  Department   of  Education   and  Early                                                               
Development  (EED)  on  education  funding outside  of  the  base                                                               
student allocation (BSA) formula.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:03:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ELIZABETH  NUDELMAN,  Director,  School  Finance  and  Facilities                                                               
Section,  Department of  Education and  Early Development  (EED),                                                               
directed attention  to the committee  packet and a  graph, titled                                                               
"Unrestricted  General Fund  Appropriations for  K-12 Education,"                                                               
to indicate  the historical funding progression  from fiscal year                                                               
(FY)  2009 through  the projected  funding for  FY 14.   The  bar                                                               
graph illustrates  the amounts,  by year,  funding that  has been                                                               
distributed outside  of the formula  appropriation.   She pointed                                                               
out that the annual spending amounts  can be read from the table,                                                               
at  the bottom  of  the same  page, for  a  more precise  figure.                                                               
Beginning  with  the  K-12 foundation  and  pupil  transportation                                                               
formula funding,  she said, the  amounts represent the  state aid                                                               
from  the   foundation  formula  and  the   pupil  transportation                                                               
formula.   These funds  come through  the public  education fund.                                                               
The third  item on  the table is  the onetime  distributed funds,                                                               
which totaled  $20 million in  FY 12, $25  million in FY  13, and                                                               
what is projected to be $25  million in FY 14.  Historically, the                                                               
state  has distributed  onetime funding  outside of  the formula,                                                               
and  she said  that during  the  seven year  period of  2002-2008                                                               
there  were  four years  that  used  this strategy;  rather  than                                                               
incorporate  the   needed  funding  immediately  into   the  base                                                               
allocation.  She then directed  attention to the second committee                                                               
handout,  indicated  as  a   draft  document  prepared  12/12/12,                                                               
listing  each  school  district  with  the  corresponding  FY  14                                                               
projected  amount to  be  received based  on  the AADM  (adjusted                                                               
average  daily  membership) and  the  share  of the  $25  million                                                               
onetime  disbursement.   She explained  that, whenever  the state                                                               
has  calculated one-time  funding amounts,  the calculations  are                                                               
based  on   the  established   formula  components   taking  into                                                               
consideration  the  individual  district factors  such  as  size,                                                               
operational requirements/cost, and other defining influences.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:07:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS   asked  how  the  reported   disbursements  relate                                                               
monetarily to the BSA.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NUDELMAN  responded that  the  FY  14, $25  million  funding                                                               
outside  of the  formula  figure,  is equivalent  to  a raise  of                                                               
approximately $100.00 in the BSA.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:08:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  addressed the  PERS/TRS draw  down and                                                               
asked for  the rationale  for including  it in  the report.   She                                                               
said the  raise in  the benefit  expense was not  a fault  of the                                                               
school districts  and the legislature  decided several  years ago                                                               
to handle it  separately.  Historically, the amount  has not been                                                               
counted against the schools, but  lately it has been appearing in                                                               
the reports.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. NUDELMAN pointed out that  the PERS/TRS funds are included in                                                               
the chart, and  the FY 14 projection is for  $343 million will be                                                               
paid into the  fund on behalf of the school  districts.  When the                                                               
benefit rates  began escalating  the state  assumed a  portion of                                                               
the  burden.    When  the rates  increased  by  approximately  40                                                               
percent, statute set the district  burden, through the foundation                                                               
formula, at 12.56 percent, and  the state accepted the difference                                                               
of  about 30  percent.   The districts  continue to  receive this                                                               
relief  each  year and  the  chart  discloses the  annual  amount                                                               
actually paid.  The accounting  for this benefit has changed, and                                                               
will continue to change, due  to the directions received from the                                                               
nationwide  governmental accounting  standards board.   Currently                                                               
it  is  reported  in  individual audits  for  the  entities  that                                                               
receive  the  benefit, and  will  be  shown in  school  districts                                                               
account  disclosures.    However,  the  process  that  the  state                                                               
undertook  to  provide  the  relief  to  the  districts  has  not                                                               
changed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  recalled  that the  decision was  made                                                               
because  it was  apparent  that  the schools  could  not pay  the                                                               
benefit  debt and  continue  to function.   She  asked  if it  is                                                               
counted  as  part  of  the  comparable $100  raise  in  the  BSA,                                                               
previously discussed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. NUDELMAN answered  no, and further clarified  that the amount                                                               
indicated for  PERS/TRS on the graph  is only the amount  paid by                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON stated  his understanding  that the  total                                                               
school district PERS/TRS [shown in  the report] is not the school                                                               
districts   contribution,  but   the   amount   that  the   state                                                               
contributes  above  the  school's   total.    He  questioned  the                                                               
reporting  method,   considering  the   PERS/TRS  cap   that  was                                                               
established,  and asked  how  this is  reflected  in other  state                                                               
agency reports; since the statute was enacted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. NUDELMAN clarified that the  amount reported on the bar graph                                                               
reflects only  the state contribution; districts  also contribute                                                               
a share,  12.56 and  22 percent,  which is  not included  in this                                                               
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:15:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARK  LEWIS,  Director,  Administrative Services,  Department  of                                                               
Education and Early Development (EED),  offered that there is not                                                               
a total  dollar amount associated in  the EED budget for  the buy                                                               
down of  the benefit rate,  and suggested that the  Department of                                                               
Legislative Finance would  be a source to provide  the figures of                                                               
what has  been contributed  to PERS/TRS on  behalf of  the state.                                                               
The  EED rate  has remained  static, but  if there  is a  varying                                                               
contribution  rate,  to maintain  the  lower  level, it  is  paid                                                               
outside of the department's budget.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON surmised  that the PERS/TRS is  paid by the                                                               
state, outside of the EED budget  and not reflected in the books,                                                               
but what  it is paid outside  of a district's budget  it is shown                                                               
on the books.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LEWIS  agreed that  it  could  be  considered in  that  way;                                                               
however, the pay down is on behalf of a state agency.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON suggested that  the reporting method may be                                                               
flawed and appears  to cause confusion; although this  is not due                                                               
to a reporting decision made by EED.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS agreed  that  transparency, on  the  part of  every                                                               
department would be helpful.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:17:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  stated her  understanding  that  this                                                               
benefit pay  down amount is not  part of what is  reported in the                                                               
budget sub-committee meetings.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEWIS  said correct,  but it  is a  budgeted item  which will                                                               
appear in the operating bill; not specific to a department.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON summarized  the testimony to  mean that                                                               
this amount  does not  appear in  any other  departmental report,                                                               
save EED.  If that is the case, she opined that it is not fair.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. LEWIS suggested  that the reason it has been  broken out here                                                               
is  to provide  perspective  on  the level  of  support that  the                                                               
legislature has provided to the districts.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P. WILSON maintained her opinion and said:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     I think  it's a way  for the  department to say  to the                                                                    
     school districts:   "You're not  happy because  of what                                                                    
     we're doing, but  by gosh look at what  we're doing, we                                                                    
     are  paying  this."   And  I  don't think  that  that's                                                                    
     right.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:20:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 8:20 a.m.                                                                 

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